Autodesk's legal department must've spent a sleepless night as word came out late yesterday evening from Europe that used software can be sold privately. As my European CAD friend Dietmar Rudolph explained it to me:
You will have seen comments on the EU ruling on used software which in fact says that a software company's rights to distribution of a license ends with the first sale. Once sold (no matter which way), the licensee is allowed to resell the software even if the EULA says differently.
- When we are legally free to buy and sell software, Autodesk makes no revenue from this secondary market.
- When we buy and sell among ourselves, we set a free-market price that is much lower than the fixed price set by Autodesk.
- Lowered demand for software supplied from Autodesk could force it to lower its list price to compete with the open market.
So, today is a good day in Europe for design firms with surplus licenses of CAD and other software, and for firms looking to make their business more efficient in these tough economic times through lowered software pricing.
When Autodesk speaks of bringing democracy to the design world, I have a feeling on this July 4 that they didn't mean to include democratic software pricing -- pricing determined by the people.
Link to the court's decision on InfoCuria.
I have thousands of dollars that sleep in my closet ... I'll be pretty busy these next few days, sorry ...
Posted by: Patrick EMIN | Jul 04, 2012 at 12:07 PM
I wonder if non-Europeans can now sell their software through European sites?
Posted by: Ralph Grabowski | Jul 04, 2012 at 12:41 PM
2.17! When I was at University a friend copied me AutoCAD v2.17 for DOS on a floppy (the lab PCs were running 2.62). I think I finally threw the disk away 4 years ago when I moved.
Posted by: Normand C. | Jul 04, 2012 at 04:06 PM
Curious. I'm pretty sure that the license terms for all of the CAD/CAM companies are pretty much the same, yet you don't mention any others besides Autodesk in this post?
Posted by: Kevin E. | Jul 05, 2012 at 06:18 AM
After reading this again, I can see why you don't. My apologies.
Posted by: Kevin E. | Jul 05, 2012 at 06:19 AM
I specify Autodesk, because it is the CAD vendor who is aggressively suing one man for the resale of software licenses, alternatively losing and winning as the case winds it way up through the American court system.
The man's argument is that he did not agree to the EULA, because he did not install the software, and so is not bound by it. He bought the CAD software at a garage sale, and then listed it for sale on eBay. Autodesk asked eBay to take down the listing, which eBay did, and the fireworks began.
Posted by: Ralph Grabowski | Jul 05, 2012 at 06:55 AM
A few years ago I bought an older version of automap in its sealed box at a local computer fair with books and attached serial #, upon installation I was asked to register it online, but never did try activating it, so after 15 days it did stop working, so I ended up un-installing it.
I doubt Autodesk would allow me to register and activate the software since it was not bought through their resellers.
Even if it's just for hobby use.
Ralph,great article!
Posted by: Lou | Jul 09, 2012 at 07:50 PM
But who is Autodesk to be setting such ridiculous conditions? Their prices are so exhorbitant that they are infringing on other peoples' well being. Probably some people should sit down and rewrite those programs!
Posted by: Francis Baziraake | Apr 01, 2015 at 12:10 PM
Has this decision been reversed in 2017?
Posted by: john | May 15, 2017 at 02:26 PM
Checking online, I see no change to the EU ruling since it was made in 2012.
Posted by: Ralph Grabowski | May 15, 2017 at 02:56 PM
Ralph,
Excellent article exposing the greedy, self-indulgent criminals at Autodesk! (and the rest of the software world!!)
Let's hope that "free enterprise capitalism" forces "monopoly capitalism" out of business in the software world.
And let's hope it's soon!
Cheers ...
Posted by: Chris | May 24, 2017 at 12:36 PM
Autodesk is a company with an army of lawyers behind them. They have a choking hand around the neck of architects and MEP engineers who are, in the first place, so incredibly under-compensated for their work. I'd say shame on them, but little chance they'd care.
Unfortunately, big firms are forcing the trend for small firms to buy exorbitant Autodesk subscription-only licenses because clients have heard of buzz words like Revit and Bim that do things you could already do (if using CAD comprehensively) years ago and that actually take over some of the designing into the world of the bland and unified. We have no hope. I can't use SketchUp because it doesn't look good on my resume.
Posted by: Luke | Mar 23, 2018 at 08:37 AM