I read an article this morning that talked about Logitech. John Hempton of Bronte Capital is puzzled why they are still in business, what with the new crop of devices not needing much in the way of peripherals (Android phones, tablets, et al).
He forgot that there are something like a quarter of a billion desktop computers still sold each year, and that peripherals wear out (I recently got a new, $100 Logitech keyboard), and that aunts and uncles need to buy gifts for their computer-using relatives, and that for some people shopping is a form of raising self-esteem. Also, he seemed unaware that Logitech has two high-end lines, 3dconnexion and Harmony.
Despite the author's concern about the future for Logitech, his most interesting point (to me, anyhow) was Payables. Apparently Logitech is at 90 days, meaning they take an average of 90 days to pay their bills. This is seen as borrowing a free loan from suppliers. ("Suppliers" means the companies in China who manufacture the goods sold by electronics companies.) It also means possibly getting into trouble when suppliers get angry about being paid so late. (Would you want to wait three months for your paycheque?) Apple is nearly as bad, but they can afford to be bullies right now. And Cisco is the best, at just 20 days.
The writer found that Dell has steadily been increasing payables over the years. This is another way to make profits look better than they are, because the company each year puts off paying more debts.
Turning to CAD vendors, we see that Autodesk has increases the amount payables during the year:
- January (2010): $259.4 million
- April: $240.4 million
- July: $268.9 million
- October: $304.7 million
But decreases them annually:
- 2007: $345.8 million
- 2008: $309.2 million
- 2009: $259.4 million
- 2010: not yet available
PTC and Dassault are similar.
"This is another way to make profits look better than they are.." The flow of cash has no impact on profitability as measured by virtually any accounting method. The payable is recorded/accrued as a liability when it occurs (typically on receipt of invoice from supplier) What's surprising about this is that is more common in a high-interest environment. Right now the rewards for holding onto cash are relatively low.
Posted by: Leo Schlosberg | Jan 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM
This is standard practice here in the UK. Half my customers pay on 90 days no matter what you say or threaten them with. The argument is that delaying payments assists companies who have seasonal variations in orders, or companies that are growing or expanding, who need additional cash reserves.
What it means is that suppliers are acting as a short term bank. I think this has more to do with banks being unwilling to extend overdraft facilities.
As the commenter said above, the value of the outstanding invoice is lodged so withholding it has no effect on profit and loss (and so taxation). It only has an effect on cashflow.So, what is surprising is that companies with huge cash reserves, like Apple, take this stance.
Posted by: Kevin Quigley | Jan 11, 2011 at 09:44 AM