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Mar 02, 2009


R. Paul Waddington

A poll of users taken on Steve Johnson's 'cadnauseam' indicated a fairly high percentage of existing users had the ribbon turned off. If that small survey is representative of the wider market is it of value to defend something few wanted and which generates NO money for the customers either?

Kevin Quigley

I wonder if SolidWorks are sponsoring him :-) The SW version of the ribbon does not do this as far as I know.

Tony Tanzillo

"Reading patents is a mind-twisting exercise, but it appear to me that his idea is to modify toolbars when the window is too small, so that the otherwise missing portion gets stacked underneath, or compressed (displays fewer icons).There are small arrows that indicate wrapping."

I don't believe that's the basis of the claim. In fact, what you describe above can be found in software that predates his filing.

What he appears to be claiming is the process or algorithm that determines what tools are hidden, namely that the most commonly-used tools are given priority over less frequently-used tools, and remain visible when the group is compressed.


It appears the "circle" icon has definitively been inspired by the first attempts to design a sort of rounded object later called "the wheel". Descendants of those pioneers could have a reason to attack in court.

Brad Holtz

Reading patents is an arcane art. Looking briefly at the claims, it seems reasonable that Autodesk (and Microsoft) will be able to show prior art to invalidate the patent, or to show that the claims of the patent are otherwise problematic.

Rudy Pont

Is this guy also suing Microsoft? If I am not mistaken this functionality is part of the Microsoft Foundation Classes (MFC).

[Yes, he is. But Autodesk implemented the ribbon in AutoCAD somewhat differently from how Microsoft did it in Office. - Ed.]

Gary Odom (aka Patent Hawk)

You kids are out of your depth.

There is no prior art to invalidate the claims. I searched exhaustively, and I've seen the results of Microsoft's prior art searches. They had nothing better than what I found.


He seems to be a patent "attorney" and not an inventor. Makes me wonder who his client is that "invented" the wrapping menu. We don't build things in this country, we squat on patents and then lawyer-up when some one comes close to that idea. End of the day, lawyers win, consumers lose.

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